This is from the clifflist's newsletter - it's a dope post about phone game (something I stuggle from :/) and getting OUT the game.
Love is a beautiful thing and you can't chase pussy ALLLL your life, just till your 80. Anyway here they are ;D
note: deleted the love post cos it's a lot of falafel, doesn't mean you should not ignore love though. ;)
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Stalemate:Why you should "NOT" get her number (Phone Game Principles) Alright, so I've been noticing a trend amongst the recent posts regarding phone game so I thought I'd share some of my own personal insight into the subject. This is all my own personal experience with phone game, and should not be taken for gospel (at your own expense). There is a lot of information in this post (all condensedand superficial so that it's readable) so please, bear with me.
What getting phone numbers is NOT meant to accomplish:
Act as a crutch because you've run out of material.
Act as a crutch because you lack the confidence to escalate therelationship in that moment.
Serve as a source of validation.
Getting phone numbers will not getyou laid.
What phone game is NOT meant to accomplish:
Building attraction
Building Comfort
Demonstrating Value
Qualifying Her
What getting phone numbers IS meant to accomplish:
Creating a Time Bridge for your next encounter because it would be literally IMPOSSIBLE to continue the interaction otherwise, and unless you #close her, you will NEVER SEE HER AGAIN.
What phone game IS meant to accomplish:
Setting up your Day 2 or next possible interaction.
The reason so many of you are having trouble with feeling like you're chasing is because you're going for the number too quickly. The next time you're number closing a girl, ask yourself why. Is itbecause you've just had an awkward silence? Is it because you wantto go practice your "game" and go get other girls numbers? Is itbecause you're choking and you need some time to recuperate your gusto? Is it because you want bragging rights for #closing a hottie? If it's for any of these reasons, then you're doing it wrong.
You should only ever be #closing a girl if you don'tanticipate seeing her again for more than 2 weeks, or ever again. I know what you're saying: "But If I don't #close her then I'll lose my chances forever!" This is AFC mentality. If you build enough attraction, comfort and value, girls will find a way to close YOU.
Getting a girls phone number is tricky business. I've #closed some really hot women, and laid virtually none of them. I've spentmonths contemplating why this was, and this is what I came up with. I'm walking through the mall as an SHB11 (because I would naturally be this fine if I were female) and a guy comes up to me while I'm shopping. I'm instantly floored by his spontaneous nature and interesting insights into my personality, and we enter immediate rapport. After conversing for a few minutes, we exchange phone numbers and we set up a tentative day 2. Time Bridge I continued shopping that day, and got several calls from all my high value friends, and had an overall really enjoyable experience. I went out to a show later that afternoon that was absolutely phenomenal, went to the gym, and then had dinner at this new Vietnamese restaurant. That guy I met earlier was kind of cute, buton second thought I'm already kind of interested in someone else but maybe it'll be fun anyway.
The Ugly Truth
This girl has made virtually no investment into your interaction. She met you for a few moments, entertained her like a monkey and then got her phone number. Though on the surface, she may be attracted to you, she is not willing to make the investment of spending time on you because she doesn't need to go out of her way to meet someone interesting, as she already has a high quality life FILLED with interesting people.
What you should have done:
You should have taken her on an Insta-date and gone around the mallshopping with her, spending as much time as possible with her building attraction, comfort, qualifying her and entering intense "It was just meant to be" states. The more a female invests into your interaction, THE GREATER THE CHANCE YOU HAVE AT CONTINUING THE INTERACTION THROUGH A TIME BRIDGE. But what if I didn't build enough value through our interactions for her to want to spend that kind of time with me? Move on.
If your game wasn't solid enough to get her to enjoy a dayshopping with you, then it's not solid enough to get a Day2. The reason this is true is because of the following threeprinciples of persuasion:
Momentum (or flow),
Influence ofProximity, and
Investment,
Which all contribute to a term coined by psychologists known as Cognitive Dissonance.
Momentum
The principle of flow is that once you start an interaction, all the positive emotions you generate with your target will start compounding onto each other which plays into something we call "Buying Temperature".
You can think of buying temperature as a pool of water with a slow leak. Every time you share positive emotions, boost attraction, DHV or enter deep rapport (comfort) you are filling that pool with water. The more time you spend filling thispool with water, the higher the water level will be, which directly translates to how much influence you have over your targets decision making.
She does not want the pool to empty anymore thanyou do, and why is this? She's having a good time. She wants to continue sharing these positive emotions with you. A time bridge kills Momentum. There goes 1/3rd of your influence.
Influence of Proximity
It's been known for years by marketers, and to the seduction community this is a crucial note. We have the most influence over a person when we are face to face with them, with a diminishing return on influence with phone or even e-mail.
You can take thisf or matter of fact because countless studies have proven it, and you yourself have probably experienced it. It's a lot harder to brush something off when it's right in your face, as opposed to ignoring a phone call, message or e-mail. You can use this to your advantage by using your proximity and presence to influence your target to spend more time with you. Time Bridge kills Proximity. There goes 1/3rd of your influence.
Investment
Investment directly correlates with influence. We as human beings value only those things which we've worked for. Investment is one of the few weapons you have at your disposal to make a time bridge stick.
Anytime a girl spends time with you (Time is investment),
Spends money on you (Money is investment),
Engages in self disclosure (sharing parts of herself with you, telling you about her life, qualifying herself to you is investment)
You are increasing the $ signs above your head. If she spends 3 hours with you, buys you a latte, tells you all about how her parents split up and how she went to Ireland for 3 months to find herself, You areIN. The more investment she has into you, the more likely she is to invest more into you. Sex is also a form in investment, and though it is not the highest form of investment, it will increase the likelihood of having her want to initiate a relationship with you.
Also, on a side note regarding sex and investment, another reason why sex plays such a crucial role in pair bonding is because of the hormone "Oxytocin" which is released during female orgasms. This hormone is responsible for monogamy in humans, as it acts as a bonding agent, which will do wonders for her biological investment towards you.
Cognitive Dissonance
If you want to read more on this, it's a psychological term and would be very much worth your time. Essentially, it means that holding two different conflicting thoughts in one's mind creates aversive emotions, and we will do what is necessary to reduce this discrepancy. This is why when we combine these 3 principles of influence, we create a Natural State with a woman, where she feels so immersed in the experience; she can backwards rationalize why she slept with you without experiencing guilt or remorse.
Your first interaction with a girl is the most crucial, so if you can push the interaction as far as possible, PUSH IT.
Imagine whatkind of love story she will have to share with her friends about this stranger she met that she fell in love with that same day? It all happened so fast, it was all so natural, like it was meant to be. In fact, when dealing with night game specifically, sometimes girls go out to get laid that night, and if you #close her without taking her home (or bouncing to her place), she will resent you and not give you a second chance.This post is kind of all over the place, but I had no idea how long it would take me to piece it together, so if you'd like me to elaborate on anything I've mentioned please make note of it and Iwould be more than happy to.
Enjoy.
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